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		<title>By: Emperor Obama &#171; Aletho News Archive</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: This &#171; Psyberspace</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 99</title>
		<link>http://pulsemedia.org/2009/01/27/emperor-obama/#comment-561</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Give it a year, and if there’s still no change at all, then you’re probably right.&lt;/i&gt;

What a luxury if we could just call off the genocide of Palestinians and the bombing of Pakistanis and the further ruination of Afghanis&#039; lives for that year.

You &lt;b&gt;KNOW&lt;/b&gt; he has the facts, that Jimmy Carter if no one else has made them clear to him, and &lt;b&gt;EVEN&lt;/b&gt; if it is suicide to piss off the Israel Lobby too much, he could at least have left Abu Mazen out of the loop and come up with a better and more believable plan for relieving the siege of Gaza.

He&#039;s known all along that he had to be ready to hop on it from Day One, and he had a full three weeks to come up with something better than that as his position regarding the extermination of Palestinians.

&lt;b&gt;THEY&lt;/b&gt; don&#039;t have a year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Give it a year, and if there’s still no change at all, then you’re probably right.</i></p>
<p>What a luxury if we could just call off the genocide of Palestinians and the bombing of Pakistanis and the further ruination of Afghanis&#8217; lives for that year.</p>
<p>You <b>KNOW</b> he has the facts, that Jimmy Carter if no one else has made them clear to him, and <b>EVEN</b> if it is suicide to piss off the Israel Lobby too much, he could at least have left Abu Mazen out of the loop and come up with a better and more believable plan for relieving the siege of Gaza.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s known all along that he had to be ready to hop on it from Day One, and he had a full three weeks to come up with something better than that as his position regarding the extermination of Palestinians.</p>
<p><b>THEY</b> don&#8217;t have a year.</p>
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		<title>By: qunfuz</title>
		<link>http://pulsemedia.org/2009/01/27/emperor-obama/#comment-560</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ZX - I called the journalist fawning because in this interview he fawns. Have a look and see. I thought of four or five ways of challenging Obama&#039;s statements as I watched the interview. This journalist didn&#039;t challenge him once.

As angryarab pointed out today, it would have been nice if Obama had given his first interview to al-Jazeera, the most popular and respected channel in the Arab world, and not to the tame, Saudi-owned Arabiyyeh.

I have no doubt that Obama&#039;s election marks a great, historic moment for the African-American struggle for equality. I&#039;ve read Obama&#039;s &quot;Dreams from my Father&quot; and found it in the main intelligent, openminded and well-written. Domestically, it really does mark a change that Obama has been elected president. He has released all kinds of positive popular energies. Perhaps in some indirect way the sense of change in America as a result of his election has been partly responsible for the shift in public opinion we are seeing with regard to Zionism.

What I am writing against here is the notion that the election of a bright black man is going to change the main thrust of American imperial-Zionist policy in the Middle East and South Asia. It may be that Obama is a secret anti-Zionist. He may believe in Trotskyist permanent revolution for all I know. But all that is irrelevant; as you yourself suggest, the problem is deeper than the president. He has the establishment to deal with. Anyway, on all the evidence we&#039;ve seen so far, he doesn&#039;t want to take on the establishment. I could pick apart what he said in his interview if I had time, and none of it looks good. Just one example: he said the Palestine-Israel problem is linked to &quot;Syria and Lebanon&quot;. I think this means that Syria and Lebanon (Hizbullah) will have to be made to change in order to make &quot;paramount&quot; Israel feel more comfortable. He didn&#039;t say Palestine-Israel is linked to the problem of corrupt dictatorships in Saudi or Egypt. Of course he didn&#039;t: he gave his first interview to a station owned by the Saudi royal family.

Obama suggested bombing Pakistan before Bush made it policy. This was his own initiative. Obama made a disgusting speech to AIPAC. No, he didn&#039;t have to. If he were really interested in justice and change, in having a national debate, rather than power for power&#039;s sake, he could have done something different. And look who is on his team: Clinton, who said today that Israel&#039;s massacre in Gaza was justified self-defence, and Dennis Ross for God&#039;s sake, and the neo-con Holbrooke, and then Mitchell, who is marginally better than Ross, but is still a Zionist, and worked under the Bill Clinton administration.

Mitchell has a Lebanese-American mother. Apparently he considers himself Irish, however. And what does having a Lebanese mother mean? Elie Hobeiqa had a Lebanese mother! Norman Finkelstein is a Jew. Does that mean he&#039;s a Zionist? I mean, Mubarak is the son of an Arab. That must mean he&#039;s dedicated to the destruction of Zionism and American imperialism!

This is the empire we&#039;re dealing with. On Obama&#039;s brief watch it has already murdered Pakistani civilians. In this context, I think we should talk about the idiocy rather than the audacity of hope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZX &#8211; I called the journalist fawning because in this interview he fawns. Have a look and see. I thought of four or five ways of challenging Obama&#8217;s statements as I watched the interview. This journalist didn&#8217;t challenge him once.</p>
<p>As angryarab pointed out today, it would have been nice if Obama had given his first interview to al-Jazeera, the most popular and respected channel in the Arab world, and not to the tame, Saudi-owned Arabiyyeh.</p>
<p>I have no doubt that Obama&#8217;s election marks a great, historic moment for the African-American struggle for equality. I&#8217;ve read Obama&#8217;s &#8220;Dreams from my Father&#8221; and found it in the main intelligent, openminded and well-written. Domestically, it really does mark a change that Obama has been elected president. He has released all kinds of positive popular energies. Perhaps in some indirect way the sense of change in America as a result of his election has been partly responsible for the shift in public opinion we are seeing with regard to Zionism.</p>
<p>What I am writing against here is the notion that the election of a bright black man is going to change the main thrust of American imperial-Zionist policy in the Middle East and South Asia. It may be that Obama is a secret anti-Zionist. He may believe in Trotskyist permanent revolution for all I know. But all that is irrelevant; as you yourself suggest, the problem is deeper than the president. He has the establishment to deal with. Anyway, on all the evidence we&#8217;ve seen so far, he doesn&#8217;t want to take on the establishment. I could pick apart what he said in his interview if I had time, and none of it looks good. Just one example: he said the Palestine-Israel problem is linked to &#8220;Syria and Lebanon&#8221;. I think this means that Syria and Lebanon (Hizbullah) will have to be made to change in order to make &#8220;paramount&#8221; Israel feel more comfortable. He didn&#8217;t say Palestine-Israel is linked to the problem of corrupt dictatorships in Saudi or Egypt. Of course he didn&#8217;t: he gave his first interview to a station owned by the Saudi royal family.</p>
<p>Obama suggested bombing Pakistan before Bush made it policy. This was his own initiative. Obama made a disgusting speech to AIPAC. No, he didn&#8217;t have to. If he were really interested in justice and change, in having a national debate, rather than power for power&#8217;s sake, he could have done something different. And look who is on his team: Clinton, who said today that Israel&#8217;s massacre in Gaza was justified self-defence, and Dennis Ross for God&#8217;s sake, and the neo-con Holbrooke, and then Mitchell, who is marginally better than Ross, but is still a Zionist, and worked under the Bill Clinton administration.</p>
<p>Mitchell has a Lebanese-American mother. Apparently he considers himself Irish, however. And what does having a Lebanese mother mean? Elie Hobeiqa had a Lebanese mother! Norman Finkelstein is a Jew. Does that mean he&#8217;s a Zionist? I mean, Mubarak is the son of an Arab. That must mean he&#8217;s dedicated to the destruction of Zionism and American imperialism!</p>
<p>This is the empire we&#8217;re dealing with. On Obama&#8217;s brief watch it has already murdered Pakistani civilians. In this context, I think we should talk about the idiocy rather than the audacity of hope.</p>
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		<title>By: ZK</title>
		<link>http://pulsemedia.org/2009/01/27/emperor-obama/#comment-559</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all I would suggest you look further into the &quot;fawning journalist&quot; aka Hisham Melhem, he is a very objective reporter who has a long and distinguished background.

Now to your points - I agree that Obama&#039;s arguments on the surface appear to be the same as Bush&#039;s with respect to Gaza and Pakistan. But what I keep wondering about the calls for Obama to condemn attacks, the calls for Obama to stop attacks in Pakistan, the calls for Obama to stop ignoring Hamas--

--what if he did all that? Is it not glaringly obvious how bad of a chokehold AIPAC has on the politics of this country, the chokehold the military-industrial complex has on our government, and what could possibly happen to Obama if he were to, without any hesitation, sweep in and begin to undermine all these parties.

For example--let&#039;s say Obama does everything that I personally would love to see happen--if Obama cut off all support for Israel, opened direct talks with Hamas, went in the face of the most popular commander in the military (Petraeus) and demanded an end to military operations in Afghanistan, and also an immediate pullout of troops from Iraq--these 3rd parties--defense contractor companies, AIPAC, and even the US public (which has been sold on Petraeus) would all spit in his face and angrily call for his head.

In fact I would even suggest that the dark powers behind the American political scene could either produce some serious scandal to tie up the President or do something even worse if he blatantly goes against their interests.

So he has to do it one step at a time. &quot;Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.&quot;

This man&#039;s history, his roots, and his personal character (politics aside) should speak for themselves. Based on that, what I think is happening here is that Obama is using the resources he has at his disposal and is tiptoeing around all these minefields to try to accomplish what had in the past seemed impossible. Put aside the cynicism for a second--no president has ever addressed Muslims or the Muslim world so directly before in his inauguration. This interview was not just &quot;an interview,&quot; it was THE first interview he gave as President. He&#039;s planning on making an address in a Muslim Country in 100 days. His Mideast Ambassador is Lebanese.

Granted, it still falls short of the ideal actions I (and yourself) would like him to take, but can&#039;t these initial steps be acknowledged? This was a guy who convinced a country built on the backs of slaves with a still deeply engendered racist mentality to make him, an African-American, the most powerful man in the world. He played the game and he won. If he can do that, I have little doubt that what we are seeing play out before us right now is the same persuasion being used to accomplish something in the Middle East.

In other words, this is no ordinary politician, and I would wait before making sweeping, cynical judgments about what his true motives and intentions are and what moves are being made behind the scenes, even as actions and words play out that would seem to suggest the status quo is well in place.

Give it a year, and if there&#039;s still no change at all, then you&#039;re probably right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all I would suggest you look further into the &#8220;fawning journalist&#8221; aka Hisham Melhem, he is a very objective reporter who has a long and distinguished background.</p>
<p>Now to your points &#8211; I agree that Obama&#8217;s arguments on the surface appear to be the same as Bush&#8217;s with respect to Gaza and Pakistan. But what I keep wondering about the calls for Obama to condemn attacks, the calls for Obama to stop attacks in Pakistan, the calls for Obama to stop ignoring Hamas&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8211;what if he did all that? Is it not glaringly obvious how bad of a chokehold AIPAC has on the politics of this country, the chokehold the military-industrial complex has on our government, and what could possibly happen to Obama if he were to, without any hesitation, sweep in and begin to undermine all these parties.</p>
<p>For example&#8211;let&#8217;s say Obama does everything that I personally would love to see happen&#8211;if Obama cut off all support for Israel, opened direct talks with Hamas, went in the face of the most popular commander in the military (Petraeus) and demanded an end to military operations in Afghanistan, and also an immediate pullout of troops from Iraq&#8211;these 3rd parties&#8211;defense contractor companies, AIPAC, and even the US public (which has been sold on Petraeus) would all spit in his face and angrily call for his head.</p>
<p>In fact I would even suggest that the dark powers behind the American political scene could either produce some serious scandal to tie up the President or do something even worse if he blatantly goes against their interests.</p>
<p>So he has to do it one step at a time. &#8220;Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.&#8221;</p>
<p>This man&#8217;s history, his roots, and his personal character (politics aside) should speak for themselves. Based on that, what I think is happening here is that Obama is using the resources he has at his disposal and is tiptoeing around all these minefields to try to accomplish what had in the past seemed impossible. Put aside the cynicism for a second&#8211;no president has ever addressed Muslims or the Muslim world so directly before in his inauguration. This interview was not just &#8220;an interview,&#8221; it was THE first interview he gave as President. He&#8217;s planning on making an address in a Muslim Country in 100 days. His Mideast Ambassador is Lebanese.</p>
<p>Granted, it still falls short of the ideal actions I (and yourself) would like him to take, but can&#8217;t these initial steps be acknowledged? This was a guy who convinced a country built on the backs of slaves with a still deeply engendered racist mentality to make him, an African-American, the most powerful man in the world. He played the game and he won. If he can do that, I have little doubt that what we are seeing play out before us right now is the same persuasion being used to accomplish something in the Middle East.</p>
<p>In other words, this is no ordinary politician, and I would wait before making sweeping, cynical judgments about what his true motives and intentions are and what moves are being made behind the scenes, even as actions and words play out that would seem to suggest the status quo is well in place.</p>
<p>Give it a year, and if there&#8217;s still no change at all, then you&#8217;re probably right.</p>
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