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What Good Intentions Wrought « Aletho News Archive — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:11:47 +0000

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By: 99

99 — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:09:11 +0000

…like nothing more than to be spared the unsolicited good intentions of western do-gooders.

Can’t fault you on that one, that’s for sure….

Maybe the good way to proceed is to give all the women guns, and ammo, teach them how to use them, and bug out. Maybe THIS time the tyrants who would rush into the void would be female… and we could all sit back and see how we like them apples! I bet even Chayes is about ready to stump for this sort of solution… or soon… for all the good it will do….

By: qunfuz

qunfuz — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:39:29 +0000

In Emile Habibi’s excellent novel “Saeed the Pessoptimist” Zionist militia inform the dispossessed Saeed that he should be happy; they’ve come to rescue him from feudalism.

By: qunfuz

qunfuz — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:37:08 +0000

Something fundamental here. The position of Afghan women is not the business of western armies. However far back in the history of imperialism you care to go, there were always ‘educative’ or ‘civilisational’ excuses. And would you say that the position of Afghan women is better now after the educative input of British, then Russian, then American and NATO forces? I mean, the lesson has been going on for a very long time.

By: m.idrees

m.idrees — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:47:31 +0000

I’m 99.99% certain Chayes said our military SHOULD BE merely guarding the Afghanis from the Taliban. World of difference, dude. The only SHOULD BE that applies to any military is that they should be at home. And I ended up agreeing that her terminology did sound a bit on the colonialist side, but taken in context with her proposals and intent You mean 'good' intent? See what Neibhur said above. The Soviets also killed and maimed hundreds of thousands with the best of intentions. Unlike you, I grew up around Afghani women, and I know that they would like nothing more than to be spared the unsolicited good intentions of western do-gooders.

By: 99

99 — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:20:20 +0000

I remember her Moyers appearance very well, having been impressed by it to begin with, and then having to go back to it when you screamed about her colonialist attitude, and I’m 99.99% certain Chayes said our military SHOULD BE merely guarding the Afghanis from the Taliban. World of difference, dude.

And I ended up agreeing that her terminology did sound a bit on the colonialist side, but taken in context with her proposals and intent, even if the case could be made that we could never achieve her goals with our thuggish military and corporate greed around to screw it up, the thrust of her concerns and ideas, it’s still damn unfair of you to drizzle sarcasm like “noble savages” in a post that includes your inaccurate account of her position.

Plus, you continue to outright sexistly completely disregard the safety and rights of the Afghani women when you go on like this. That has been demonstrated to be a clear and present danger in Taliban-controlled areas. So while a very seriously do not condone drone attacks and military offensives decimating what infrastructure and civilian populations fall in their path, just bugging out is now worse than the original invasion… for at LEAST half the population.

Seems to me you are so outraged and self-righteous with this often dead wrong and always at least mostly beside the point shtick about our racism that you’ve thrown accuracy and objectivity and workable ideas completely out the window.

Get more sleep.

Take a meditation class.

Get out into the world.

SOMETHING!

You’re becoming dangerous with this stuff.